June 7, 2008
Posted by: Kelby Carr

Bite Me, Wachovia! A Case Study in What’s Gone Wrong with the Banking Industry

Posted in: business and pr

bank fees and banking industryI am not that old. I am in my 30s. But I feel like a geriatric for what I’m about to say. I remember way back when banks didn’t piss me off. They didn’t suck. I actually used to have a bank that would call my cell phone or work if I was overdrawn just to let me know, and they would give me a couple hours to run the few doors over from my newsroom with some cash or a check to cover it instead of bouncing it. They wouldn’t put a 5-day hold if I told them I really needed the money now, and they would waive a silly fee if I asked nicely.

But banks like that keep getting devoured by banks that suck. Banks like Wachovia (although in my experience, Bank of America is a nightmare, as bad as bad banks go, but that is another tale for another time). Needless to say, the banking system long ago stopped serving customers and starting serving their own CEOs and investors.

I have my own personal case study in banking BS absurdity. We had a financial hit (as you may have read, when we unexpectedly one Wednesday lost our cat and cut a check to the vet for more than $700). It was a tough hit to the account, but I figured we’d live tightly for the few days until the next direct deposit went in.

Then an unauthorized charge went through, something that came about as a simple misunderstanding but resulted in $170-some in charges that weren’t correct or expected. This bumped the account only a mere $48 in the negative. So I’m sure I know what you must be thinking. That’s not a big deal right.

Think again, my friends. Think again. It was $48 in little charges like gas and a few $9 domain renewals. Each charge was a new fee. Grand total in fees was $280. Now, they only had to cover that for two days until the bad charge was reversed, but I can’t find an APR calculator that will calculate one day’s interest… so presuming they fronted me that money for an entire month, the APR they charged was 7,000% (or like 250 times the typical limit for interest rates on consumer loans). And yes, nearly six times the amount we were overdrawn.

Now they argued it wasn’t a loan, but really it is. But that’s besides the point.

I can understand how the charges got there in the first place, but here’s where I take issue. They flat out, absolutely refused to refund the fees. They acknowledged that it wasn’t my fault the account went negative. They also acknowledged that the money was refunded, and it was clearly an unauthorized charge. But they argued that it wasn’t THEIR mistake, so the fees were valid, and they would not refund them. Period.

Don’t think that I let it go at that. I made a grand total of five phone calls. I spoke to supervisors. One supervisor didn’t take kindly when I stated I would spread bad word of mouth about Wachovia. Here was how that pleasant convo went down:

Rude Wachovia supervisor: “Are you making threats?”

Me: “No, I’m stating a fact. If you treat a customer like crap, they will of course spread the word about it. How is that a threat?”

Rude Wachovia supervisor hung up.

Nice.

I talked to the local branch. Twice. They said there was nothing they could do.

Here’s what really gets me. It’s not like they would be losing money by crediting those fees back. This wasn’t money out of their pockets. This was less money they were making. There is a huge difference. So really, to decide to refuse to refund it is sending the message: “Screw you! No matter what the circumstances are, we will drain you of cash if we legally can do it.”

I actually did think about filing complaints and writing letters. But I decided to blog about it. Because I think there is more to this obnoxious tale than one customer’s bad experience (and nasty hit to the wallet). Just do a search with the name of any major bank and the word “sucks,” and you’ll find endless results. Can you do that with any other industry?

People are getting fed up, too. The owner of Wachoviabank-sucks dot com, for example, has an awesome statement blasting the bank plastered across the back of his minivan. Oh, too funny.

Banks are on a downward spiral, from the insane mortgage crisis (mortgage anyone? I mean anyone? ANYONE???) to credit card rates that double if you pay one day late to the incessant nit-picking of checking account customers with fees and loopholes and rules. In fact, the Charlotte Observer just did a piece about the impact of the banking industry’s calamity on their city (which is the second biggest banking center in the nation).

This is our money! You don’t have a right to have your way with it. Obviously, major legislation (and enforcement) is needed to get this out-of-control industry in line. I mean, we clearly (above example as a case in point) can’t count on them to do the right thing just because a customer asks.

Meanwhile, I’m moving to a smaller bank. I will keep moving to new banks until I find one that isn’t ridiculous, until I find one that treats me like a human and not their personal slush fund.

And I am asking you guys to help me prove a point. One, link to this post (and please comment if you do). Better yet, write your local senator or congressman and tell them the banking nonsense needs to stop now. Write your fave presidential candidate (or both!) and tell them the same. Write to your bank and tell them what you’ve done.

We need to send a message that we aren’t taking their crap anymore.

Until they get it, ask around. Find out which locally-owned bank people like (if you even have any left in your town). Open an account, and close your account with that mammoth bank. Let’s hit them where it really hurts. In their wallets.

Bank / money graphic © Barun Patro.

  • http://www.marilynsholin.com/blog Marilyn Sholin

    There is no question you must bank with a smaller bank. Since you are here in Asheville, I highly recommend First Citizens as a small “enough” bank to handle big banking things also. Although I had my own aggravation with them when they wanted to extend me over draft protection after we first got here and opened our account, which resulted in their pulling a credit check on me, which showed that Progress Energy, Bell South, the gas company, Mediacom, Direct TV and all those associated had also done credit checks and they turned me down as having had too many credit reference checks. HEY! WE JUST MOVED HERE! How do we get services turned on to live here without that being done!
    Aside from that, they are great. They DO call me, know me by name, clear my out of town checks immdiately and cash my out of town checks also.
    Get away from those big banks. Their computers run them, not people. I feel for ya. And yeah…Bank of America, worst nightmare of all. No one there knows what is happening.

  • http://mommastantrum.blogspot.com MommasTantrum

    I absolutely hate Wachovia and BofA. Hubs and I switched to Wells Fargo when we were living together (yes, in the 6 months before we were married) and have been with them since. We have never been happier – yes, with a BIG BANK – the customer service is excellent, and they have all our accounts in one place.

    MommasTantrums last blog post..He Fought The Birds…and The Birds Won

  • http://www.hurricanemommy.com Nancy Nally

    We recently switched to Wachovia from Bank of America. BOA was an absolute nightmare! We’ve been very happy with Wachovia.

    When we set up our Wachovia accounts, they were linked to a line of credit (I think it was a credit card?) so that instead of being overdrawn in checking money would be transferred from that source and we would avoid fees.You may want to consider setting up a credit source just for that even if you don’t use credit normally.

    Nancy Nallys last blog post..Help me find cotton t-shirts that don’t shrink!

  • http://averagejane.blogs.com Average Jane

    I’ve banked with a credit union for years now and never looked back. The list of helpful and positive things they’ve done for me goes on and on.

    Average Janes last blog post..Average Jane’s Entertainment Purchases

  • http://wiredfornoise.com Summer

    It’s inconvenient, but this is a major reason why I don’t have a bank account. I have my money either in cash or sent to my paypal account for online purchases. But I don’t hold an actual bank account. They just live to screw people over.

    Summers last blog post..Tagged

  • http://www.jamireyesco.com Jami

    I bank with Wachovia and I agree with you — I have had instances where the phone just doesn’t work. I actually deal with a banker at a branch close to home. I just opened up my business account with him and he was very helpful. With that said, I have friends who have nightmare stories about Wachovia, Bank of America, Regions, etc. I like the idea of a small bank but I just haven’t found one that really calls my name (there was a small one that I liked and it was gobbled up by a bigger bank). Try going to the branch where you opened the account. If you fight them enough they will do something about it. Good luck!

  • Thomas

    Banks like Wachovia and BofA don’t look at customers as people to be served. People are just accounts for the extraction of value to the benefit of shareholders. In the realm of soulless, nonbreathing businesses, mega-banks like these are among the worst offenders.

    If you can, join a credit union. You’re an owner there and “profits” are returned to depositors in the form of better returns and better service. There are also a lot of smaller local banks springing up that have much better focus on service and relationships in the community.

    Here in Western North Carolina we have Carolina 1st, Macon, Asheville Savings, Mountain 1st as good examples of how banks should be run. To my mind there is simply nothing that Wachovia or Bank of America can offer me that would make up for the personal relationship I have with my local bank.

  • http://casadecruz.blogspot.com/ TLC

    We have Wells Fargo and have been happy with them. The couple of times we have overdrawn, they do overdraft from our savings, and waive the fees. We have a large amount with them, maybe that’s why, but I like to think they are just a good bank.

    Bank of the West was also good, but they went out of CA so we switched to WF about 15 years ago. BofA is evil.

    TLCs last blog post.."I’ll Have the Quesadilla"

  • http://paisleygoddess.com Ash

    I closed my account…at Wachovia…for this very reason! I have yet to find a bank I want to use. Hubby is using Suntrust and so far they have been decent. But, I wholeheartedly agree and have found myself hating banks and not really wanting to open another account! Great post!

    Ashs last blog post..Pretty Paisley Tableware

  • http://spacemom.net/adventures Spacemom

    Hear Hear!
    I use a local bank. It has 11 branches in Eastern Massachusetts. That’s it.
    I love it and I have never had a problem, even the day the ATM only gave me $20 when I asked for $140. They fixed it within 2 days with a letter of apology!

    Spacemoms last blog post..Got life?

  • http://www.lklawless.com/blog Laura K. Lawless

    I do nearly all of my banking at Wainwright Bank. It’s in Boston, I’m not, but I just do everything by mail. Not only is it friendly, it’s also a “green” bank – donating money to help people and the environment, etc. Check it out: http://www.wainwrightbank.com

  • http://www.donmillsdiva.blogspot.com Don Mills Diva

    I couldn’t agree more. I am Canadian but it’s the same here – the banks have changed so much in the last decade or so. They are raking in obscene profits and gouging you on every thing they can. I hope you get a million comments and you get your money back – people need to start taking a stand.

    Don Mills Divas last blog post..A tale of two dresses

  • Ronda Christiansen

    We have had several oops moments with out bank, and it has cost us almost $2000 the last year and a half. Banks make their money off fees…I’m going to a credit union…asap

  • John Casey

    I dont know if this happend to any of you but These are hard times and I fell behind a few months on my Mortgage. I spoke with Wachovia and they said they have a plan that will help and lower my cost. Well I told them awsome. I was paying Bi Weekly and it was killing me. So they said they would give a Monthly Payment plan and forgive all my late fees and charges. I got their agreement in the mail and not only only was it more then I was paying but did not include insurance and escrow. I was like WTF! I called them I spoke to the rudest person on tyhe face of the earth. Long story short now they aint getting a dime until they work with me.

  • Bank Hater

    This is the United States, the most powerful
    and rich country in the world….so it use to be. Because of greed the title is slowly fading away. Banks are the absolute worst
    place to put your money. Imagine that if
    something were to happen to our economic power, suppose a terrorist somehow could log
    into the banking system and literally stop the money flow. Not only do they have control, but just think what would happen. Because the banks are so CONSUMED with hanging onto money, just imagine what holds would be placed if this happened. Banks decide when, how and how much money you can draw out…..if they want to put a hold on your funds, they can do it in a second. The only way you really have freedom with your money is to have the actual green stuff between your fingers. Absolutely outrageous how this has happened. Between fees, holds and obnoxious behavior our money is being held from us. If everyone were to have cash think of how and maybe the banking industry would try to change.

  • Sam Owusu

    I hate Bank of America, I don’t even know what to say about them. If that is the only Bank in U.S I think I would rather put my money under my pillow. The Bank I will not even cash my check there is Chase Bank. I am hoping that they file for Bankruptcy one day and never come to Business.

  • Soccermom

    I have had it with this bank. At every turn they are taking money from my account when there is already money in the account. I’m suppose to have free checking but why does free checking cost me between 90 and 120 every few months. It seems every few months I am calling them and having my account credited the amount the erroneously taken. I’m tired and am ready to move on. I tried to give them a chance but I can not allow them to continue with this madness.

  • Jay M

    Banks disclose all of that information in their respective Depositors Agreements/ Schedule of Fees. Most issues people have with major banks can be solved by reading the information that they provide you when you first open an account. You cannot blame te banks for your failure to BE INFORMED. Read their disclosures, learn their system, and you can beat it or find a work around about 80-90 percent of the time. No syumpathy

  • Barbara

    OMG you are sooo right Wachovia is a nightmare and to make it worst they offer “student account” to college kids with no jobs and money and who pays for those fees. Parents do so my daughter is no longer allowed to “swipe” her card…BOA or WAchovia both are nightmares. I have been using a credit union for 10 years now and WOW I can not tell you how happy I am with it. They apologize even when I make mistakes and correct any problem that they cause with no problem. CREDIT UNIONS are the way to go. Like the author say switch banks and hurt them where it hurts.

  • mj davis

    I agree. I have been with Wachovia since Wachovia took over First Union here (7 years or so). Now they want to charge me $5.95/month to use Quicken (forget the fact that I had to upgrade to the current version (2010) for $39.95 which will serve me for about 3 years). My CPU, my software for the simplicity of downloading and or sending bill payments, and my paid-for internet connection…….saves them from sending me blank checks and statements at their printing costs and postage fees…….yet, I owe them for accessing my account information. Yeah, it's time to move away from these bloodsuckers who suck up money like a run away shop-vac and then run to the government crying about being broke….really?! WHY? Misappropriation of income for sure. The top leaves the bottom high and dry with no explanation as the WHY they're broke. It's coming to a head……we've only slowed the economic bleed….guys like these (Wachovia) will certainly open the big hole again and not too far from now, I'm sure.

  • Greg

    I had 150 dollars in Wachovia checking. There were seven charges that I had enough to cover, but a few days later there was a larger automatic withdraw I had forgotten. What does Wachovia do? Imaginarily subtract the larger withdraw so I am negative (w/a fee for the privilege) then charge me a fee per check card purchase (purchases made while there was enough money to cover the charge)–and then, get this, the large initial purchase they subtracted was only imaginarily subtracted–when it is actually paid out I pay another fee!

    On top of this–one of these payouts was an unauthorized charge. Wachovia used to credit one's account w/in 24hrs. Now they have to close my card, and it takes 7-10 days to credit my account. In the meantime I am paying fees upon fees.

    The account specialists recommendation? Make a deposit.

    I have banked w/Wachovia for about 7 years. I am ending that relationship today. Clearly customer service is something of an after thought and they are willing to screw customers w/out any ethical reflection.

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  • Subaru_777

    I closed my Wachovia account over a year ago because of the following incident…. This type of thing happened all the time with Wachovia…

    I made a deposit on a Friday at the Wachovia ATM in cash. This was back when they had envelopes instead of the cash reader at the ATM like they have today. I deposit $40 in Cash. I receive a receipt showing my AVAILABLE BALANCE is $82.54. I go home, check online, once again my Available Balance is $82.54. I go out at that point and purchase something with my debit card for $30.

    The Next Morning I wake up, go online to view my balance which to my surprise is now OVERDRAWN by $100+ dollars!!!! Wachovia REMOVED my deposit overnight putting me into a negative balance!! I called them, long story short, Wachovia told me that deposits are not available for 3-5 days and that my AVAILABLE BALANCE is NOT really available… They Refused to refund the Overdraft fees.

    Wachovia SUCKS.. CLOSE YOUR ACCOUNT NOW and go with someone else!!! Wachovia will ALWAYS trick you into stuff just to charge you fees!!!

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